Tuesday, March 04, 2008

The Civil War has started - and ended, apparently.

Hat Tip: Garnel Ironheart

Sunday, March 02, 2008
How do you prove you're a Jew?

Commenting on this article by GERSHOM GORENBERG, Dovebear writes:

...But now engaged couples are required to produce birth certificates, and photos of tombstones, and letters from members of the small, unpublished list of Orthodox Rabbis the courts will recognize. As Gorenberg put it: "the status of Jews by birth is in question. Equally important, the dividing line is no longer between Orthodox and non-Orthodox. The rabbinate’s handling of the issue has placed it on one side of an ideological fissure within Orthodox Judaism itself, between those concerned with making sure no stranger enters the gates and those who fear leaving sisters and brothers outside."

It was just a matter of time until it was openly declared: If you're not Cheredi, you're not a Jew. The RCA apparently agrees, having handed over control of conversions to Cheredi courts - who have declared that they can and will retroactively invalidate conversions, even ones done generations ago, if they were done by a non-cheredi rabbi.

Apparently the vast majority of Jews, either thinking this doesn't have anything to do with them or just not caring, also agree. There has been no outcry, no outrage, no demand for accountability - nothing. So the ultra-orthodox have declared war on the rest of us, and the rest the Jewish world has accepted defeat without so much as a single salvo.

The talibanization of Judaism is complete. The wackos are running the asylum. Educated, intelligent people need not apply. Either submit to medieval fairy tales and reject science, or you're not Jewish. End of line.

3 comments:

Garnel Ironheart said...

I think the lack of outrage is itself a good reason for what the Chareidim have done.

Imagine what would have happened if large numbers of Conservatives or Reformers felt strongly about their Jewish identity. Wht an outcry there would be. Threats to exclude the Orthodox from the local UJA etc. But as you noted, there's been nothing. That apathy speaks volumes. There has been no reaction because the non-religious have already removed themselves from the K'lal and don't feel a connection with it anymore. This in itself cna justify what the Chareidim are doing to an extent: they are simply formalizing the chocie the non-religious have made.

Ahavah said...

Ummm, this should be a bit obvious, but the Reform and Conservatives don't get orthodox conversions or have orthodox weddings in the first place - this doesn't affect them.

The only people this affects are the MO and those who make Aliyah (who can, by definition, hardly be said to be disinterested in their Judaism - it's not like Israel has a great economy or fabulous job opportunities and a safe, crime free atmosphere...). They're the ones who get "orthodox" conversions and have orthodox weddings.

Any converts in any MO's family tree now basically invalidates their Judaism - that's what it boils down to. I presume you're ok with that?

Garnel Ironheart said...

> it's not like Israel has a great economy or fabulous job opportunities and a safe, crime free atmosphere...).

You're wrong on the first two out of three.

> Any converts in any MO's family tree now basically invalidates their Judaism - that's what it boils down to. I presume you're ok with that?

What do you think?