Sunday, June 06, 2010

The handwriting is on the blog commentaries.

I shouldn't be surprised, because I've been noticing for years that American culture is not nearly as "enlightened" as it pretends to be, and that Jewish involvement in the Economic Crisis will and is inflaming anti-Semitic attitudes in educated people who ought to know better than to believe in idiotic conspiracy theories.

Yet it is still astonishing to me how quickly anti-antisemitism rears its ugly head these days in ANY discussion involving Jews. James Howard Kunstler is a secular Jew - to my knowledge he does not practice Judaism to any standard, not even a basic Karaite practice, nor does he appear to particularly believe in God. Jim's audience knows this, but he doesn't make a big deal out of it in any way. Apparently, his criticism of NASCAR is just too much for some people to take. In this past week's discussion (and in several discussions previously) on Peak Oil, the BP fiasco, the Economic Meltdown and Urban Planning on his blog some unsavory passages from the Talmud were thrown up as "evidence" that Jim, like all other Jews, is just trying to destroy and control the world with his criticisms of the western consumer materialistic culture.

Welcome Home to Slum Nation
By James Howard Kunstler
on May 31, 2010 7:02 AM

After a very nice visit to Germany, particularly Berlin, where great strides have been made in getting solar and wind power online, and in providing bike and mass transit to all neighborhoods, and in beautifying the ugly mess left by the Russians when they finally withdrew, Jim had this to say about his return home:

...America today is arguably a far less civilized land, and even more neurotic, than the Germany of the 1930s. We live in places so extreme in ugliness, squalor, and dysfunction that just going to the store leaves a sentient American reeling in angst and anomie. Our popular culture would embarrass a race of hebephrenics. We think that neck tattoos are cool. A lot of our pop music is overtly homicidal. Our richest citizens have managed to define a new banality of evil. Our middle classes are subject to humiliations so baroque that sadomasochism even fails to encompass the finer points. And we don't even need help from other nations to run our own economic affairs into the ground -- we're digging our national grave with a kind of antic glee, complete with all the lurid stagecraft that Las Vegas, Hollywood, and Madison Avenue can muster.

Biking around Berlin -- especially the non-tourist neighborhoods, and the beautiful, shaded paths beside the little river Spree, where young people sat enjoying the simple tranquility of the waterside on a spring day -- I could only imagine the scene back home at the Indianapolis Speedway (or the dozens of Nascar ovals around Dixie) -- the frantic idiocy of America-on-wheels, the fat slobs in beer can hats grilling cheez dogs in the parking lots, letting loose their asinine rebel yells as though this made men of them, and above it all the deafening noise of a people literally driving themselves to death and madness.

Meanwhile, the evil plume of crude oil in the Gulf of Mexico grows ever-larger by the hour and every living thing in that quarter of the sea faces slow death. That's our memorial-in-the-making to ourselves. I feel sorry for Barack Obama in this situation. Dmitry Orlov is right: this is our Chernobyl...

...Coming home to the USA was like re-entering a special kind of mega-slum where nothing that can be screwed up is left un-screwed up...The things we tell ourselves are so absurd that even the late George Carlin couldn't make them up...

There's certainly nothing factually incorrect about what he wrote, and the dismaying experience of every sort of breakdown, inconvenience and delay at American airports (which I did not excerpt) are not even newsworthy any more they are so common. They're now cliche.

So it seems strange that the comments would veer so firmly into the twilight zone of Jew-bashing, but they did. I want you to understand that this audience is not a bunch of uneducated hicks - they are people with college degrees in various engineering and architectural fields, as well as scientifically informed followers of news on peak oil, transportation issues, and urban planning. Of the hundreds of people who read each week, only a couple protested these remarks. I believe it is safe to say that these remarks represent a growing mainstream view of Jews in American.

...Vlad Krandz | May 31, 2010 4:32 PM | Reply

Now if only the Jews would give up their claim to be the Chosen or Master Race. Also why are we about to go to war with Iran over a nuclear missile or two when Israel has 300 plus? Should't we passing sanctions on them?

...Majella replied to comment from Vlad Krandz | May 31, 2010 9:36 PM | Reply

Vlad, is it that my sense of irony is currently non-functional, or are you really that un-informed?????

Who do you think supplied (and probably PAID for as well) their nukes?? The US Taxpayer, of course!

...Vlad Krandz replied to comment from mika. | June 1, 2010 12:07 AM | Reply

Genocide of the White Race is the ultimate goal of the Jewish/Leftist Cabal. Thus they promote anything that weakens White Nations and populations. This includes Feminism, Political Correctness and White Guilt, Homosexuality, zero population growth (which I agree with, but only Whites took seriously), and of course massive Non-White Immigration. Mika is not unusual just unusually candid.

Chaim Weitzman had a similar moment of honesty in one of his journals. He said that anti-semitism was often rational since Jews often have agendas contrary to the welfare of the Nations in which they reside. Of course the Jews will always loudly proclaim that they are just trying to protect themselves. But in real life, there is often a very fine line between offence and defence. And in their very private writings, they exalt about the prospect of the downfall of the White Man and the subsequent World Civilizaton under them and their Masonic Underlings.

...Workingman1 | June 1, 2010 6:59 AM | Reply

Kunstler--there you go again bashing Southern's.
Big deal a few Rednecks like to have a few beers and blow off some steam watching NASCAR. Most spend the rest of their 6 days a week at an honest living, and many have served in the miltary to protect the USA. It's the cultured and scheming Madoff's of the world that do alot more damage to society. The elites burn more jet fuel traveling the world, they goober and his buds. They(Southerners) are not the next coming of Hitler ready to lasso your paranoid elite ass and pull you a few mile behide a horse.

... mika. replied to comment from cowswithguns | June 1, 2010 9:54 AM | Reply

COWSWITHGUNS, I understand what you're saying, I just don't think that's a realistic scenario. I just don't care to waste my emotional energy on that diseased population. I don't consider them human beings. To my eyes, they're little more than greedy blood thirsty cold-blooded alien lizardoids. I don't care to get involved with them, and I really don't care what fate befalls them.

...Vlad Krandz replied to comment from mika. | June 1, 2010 12:32 PM | Reply

Atta boy Mika, you tell him. According to the Talmud, only Jews are human beings - all other races and nations being just animals. You've gone this far - why not tell them everything?

...trav777 | June 1, 2010 12:37 PM | Reply COULD they?

Jews are so self-deceptive, it's pathologically impossible to understand how having your clan's fingerprints all over every financial crisis this century might provoke alienation, NEVER MIND the perception of the zionist misbehavior in the middle east.

Just more white-baiting from JHK when he has nothing else to say. Always back to the old distrust and closet hatred of things anglo-saxon. Right now the biggest danger to us is not a bunch of toothless hicks in the Deep South, Jim, it's from PRINCETON and HARVARD educated members of your Tribe who are systematically robbing the entire world blind with financial scams. What say ye? Oh wait, can't comment on that EXCEPT to say that those aforementioned "rednecks" have started to NOTICE it.

Just tick down the list of the Federal Reserve Board and the vampire squid banks if you can't figure it out, J. What are you afraid of, that people are going to NOTICE the monoethnicity of it all? What happens when people rebuke the "jew confetti" as the Bavarians referred to those rentenmarks?

People who refuse to learn from history...

... mika. replied to comment from Vlad Krandz | June 1, 2010 1:05 PM | Reply

Well, Vladik, when you behave as a criminal beast you don't get to qualify as a normal human being, not in my eyes. And when a whole culture and society with its institutions voluntarily vote for and follow criminal beasts, and do so on a consistent and repeated basis over thousands of years, than as far as I'm concerned they too disqualify themselves as human beings in my eyes. It's a simple arithmetic, Vladik. Really not that hard to understand. Really.

...Qshtik replied to comment from diogen | June 1, 2010 5:59 PM | Reply

Dio, I googled "Talmud, only Jews are human beings" I clicked on the first link that came up and it contained the following ... and more.

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts."
Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honour the the dog more than the non-Jew."
Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30


"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form."
Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855


"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal."
Coschen hamischpat 405


"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs."
Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b


"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human."
Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b


"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog."
Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b


"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"."
Jore dea 377, 1


"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals."
Talmud Sanhedrin 74b


"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile."
Sepher ikkarim III c 25


"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah."
Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5


"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands."
Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b


"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God."
Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772


How does a Jew prepare for his crime?

Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status

Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.


Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."


Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.


Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.


Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.


Insults Against Blessed Mary

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Mary was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

Horrible Blasphemy Against Jesus Christ

Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is being boiled in "hot excrement."

Sanhedrin 43a. Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu (Jesus) was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"

Talmud Attacks Non jews beliefs

Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.


Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.


Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).


Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud

Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.


Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).


Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.


Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."


Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.


Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that the Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.


Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.


Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.


Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.


Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.

...Vlad Krandz replied to comment from diogen | June 2, 2010 1:33 AM | Reply

Aw c'mon buddy - don't deny our relatonship. Mika's just jealous.

The complete Talmud can be found online at Also you could google Christ and the Talmud to get the Christian perspective. There are innumerable sites. Or you could investigate the late Dr Israel Shahak who spoke out against both the ancient Talmudic hatred and its modern forms.

As for your friend: many liberal or secualr Jews don't know anything about this - and they don't want to know. They play the same psychological games with themselves and others to avoid finding out as they do about the history between the Palestinians and the Israelis. It took me weeks of enduring bitter denial before I could get my Jewish friend to investigate for himself the filth that is in the Talmud. One of his idea was for us to go to a Rabbi and just ask him. I vetoed this because Rabbis are instructed to lie about any of this to outsiders. Your friend might be lying to you too - but chances are he's just uninformed and resistant to getting informed.

Thank you for your outrage - where is everybody else's? I mean Mika was openly talking about genocide! His attitude is not rare as you will soon find out. The attitudes formed by the Talmud survived the Jewish Enlightenment and secularization among a hard core of the Elite and Wealthy Jews - and of course among the remaining Orthodox. Ariel Sharon once said, a Jews can judge any man, but no man can judge a Jew. Pure Talmud since Jews are human and goyim aren't. Goyim means cattle btw. They see themselves as the herdsmen and us as the cattle to be used, driven, and disposed of. Look and you will see that they are driving us to a cliff and intend to drive us off...

...Loveandlight | June 2, 2010 9:55 AM | Reply

Off-topic: Okay, Jim? I don't really expect this to mean anything to you at all, but I still want to let you know that if you defend Israel and that flotilla-massacre in your next column, that will be the last CF I will ever read. And I will likely depart with some very unkind words. That's how it is.

...diogen replied to comment from Loveandlight | June 2, 2010 10:26 AM | Reply

I'd think that Peak Oil has a significant implication for Israel, they are only able to maintained their hold on the land as long as there's petroleum to power their war machinery. Once they can't fuel their vehicles, tanks and aircraft, they will be unable to defend their state. It would've been much smarter for them from the start to integrate themselves into the region and build alliances with their neighbors instead of depending on the military might to keep the neighbors out. My guess -- Israel is finished in 10-15 years as Peak Oil hits. And if they continue to flout civilized behavior, maybe sooner.

Peak Oil will surely re-draw the map of the world... It would seem that Saudis and Kuwaitis have as much to fear the day when the oil runs low, not only will we (the U.S.) lose an interest in defending them, their fossil fuel war machinery is the only thing that keeps the hordes of their more radical brethren from taking power...

...Vlad Krandz replied to comment from budizwiser | June 2, 2010 1:53 PM | Reply

Read Qshtk's Quotes from the Talmud above. This is the source of Kunstler's Gentile bashing. Not that he had any formal training - but the attitudes sometimes persisted even in Reform Judaism or completely secular families.

...diogen replied to comment from Vlad Krandz | June 2, 2010 2:07 PM | Reply

Vlad, I found the same quotes as Qshtik, they were on an islamic website, the whole website didn't seem credible. I followed your link too, it was too much to read, but it looks like all the crap was written between 200 and 2,000 years ago. I asked my buddy Dave about it, he said no one he knows has read the talmud or even thinks it has any relevance to their lives. He thinks isolated orthodox sects read it, but they are weird in every other way (his words, not mine, apologies if anyone is offended).

My take on it is there's anachronistic crap in all religious writings, including the Bible and the Koran (although i haven't read it). I think only extremists take it seriously, but they are losers no matter what religion they belong to.

This is the fruit of American "multi-culturalism." American young urban professionals don't "tolerate" all religions, they dump them all together into one rat-hole they consider to be outdated superstition - something to humor if they have to but to ultimately ignore. Instead of teaching kids that there is no one right way, American youth now simply believes there is no right way, period.

And this leads directly to anti-semitism, because any "trouble" caused by such outdated beliefs is, in their view, caused by irrational clinging to things proved untrue and irrelevant to modern life. Even calling oneself a Jew, no matter how tentatively, is irrational and "proves" you are part of a cult with goals that are harmful to the overall American view of "freedom." This is the majority view of Americans now, and it is important that all Jews, even secular ones, understand this.

A Jew cannot now criticize ANY of the harmful aspects of American/Western imperialism and consumerist materialism, not advocate responsible stewardship of the earth's resources or advocate that all third world populations get their fair share of the world's natural resources - because that cuts into the "American way" of life - never mind how destructive and unfair that "way" is. Nor can Jews criticize any part of the disgusting sexualizing and decadence of everything from kindergarteners to the public square - because that's "imposing religion" on people - not imposing standards of public decency, imposing "religion." Apparently without "religion" there IS NO standard of public decency.

Western society has truly disintegrated. It's a dead man walking, and Jews are going to be blamed for its demise by more and more people looking for a scapegoat.

...eightm replied to comment from Brian F | June 2, 2010 2:18 PM | Reply

...Wake up guys, the economy of the 80s and 90s is over, globalization has been achieved, all of a sudden there are 100 million new workers from Indonesia to Argentina available with a decent education and very disciplined that work for a salary betwen 100 to 800 dollars a month. The handwriting is on the wall, you will all have to adapt to a standard worldwide salary of 400 dollars a month, mark my words.


...Agriburbia | June 2, 2010 4:33 PM | Reply

Regarding some of the history discussed by Kunstler in his post: does anyone else see a historical pattern here in regards to the role which Jews play in nations?

For instance, Germany reached its nadir during the Weimar Republic of the 1920s-early 1930s. During the Weimar Republic Jews were also very, very powerful in Germany, hence the fervent anti-Semitism of the Nazis that followed in 1933.

Now in 2010, Jews seem to be at the apex of their power in America while the USA as a whole seems to be in a kind of nadir.

Kunstler constantly refers to the possibility of 'cornpone Nazism' arising in the USA, and I'm just wondering if anyone else has noticed these historical patterns in terms of nations suffering at the hands of rapacious Jewish plutocrats?

And according to these college-educated ordinary young American professionals, it's all the fault of the Jews, who don't consider other people as human beings and have no qualms whatsoever exploiting people at home and abroad - as we read above. This attitude should SCARE YOU, class.


This comment appears on Dmitry Orlov's blog. Dmitry survived the collapse of the Soviet Union and came to America, and these days blogs about the inevitable collapse of the US economy and how the people in Russia had guaranteed rights to housing, etc., that meant their "collapse," though not fun, will be considered a picnic compared to the upcoming US collapse, where there is basically no presumed right to housing, health care, or even unemployment benefits like people in civilized places have. Here, once again, we see Jew-bashing appear recently in the comments section and Jewish complicity given as an explanation for the continuing US collapse.

...fucthefed said...

Gore Vidal wrote that white people should be taken out of power but what he really meant was that jews need to lose the right to lead.

He has since codified his remarks about white people along these lines. He wrote the statement posted above before he retired. After he retired he told the truth.

Gore Vidal wrote the forward to Israel Shahak's book about jewish racism. The link above leads to the book and the foreward. Both are eye openers.

Elena Kagan has taken heat for only hiring white people at Harvard. In reality 90% of Kagans hires were jews. Jews are not white people. At least they do not think of themselves that way. Jews consider themselves a minority.

Most problems with the USA expecially the looting can be laid at the feet of Zionist jews. Not a white person. Jews have no problem being confused with whites if they are doing something bad. If it something good jews will make sure everyone knows they are jews.

Our last 3 presidents have appointed over 50% jews to gov't positions. Jews have the USA on this path and they own the media that brainwashes everyone. Don't get me started on the FED banks and Wall St.

These are facts and no amount of lies or name calling can change them.

If you don't like the way this gov't is heading chances are extremly high that some jew is in charge of whatever it is that is happening that you don't like.

I do not have an answer to this problem but like the oil leak the first step is to openly recognize the truth.

I will understand if you don't want to post this but if you make some stupid remark you will lose a regular reader forever. I have no more time for reading brainwashed people of any flavor.
Saturday, June 5, 2010 5:29:00 PM EDT

Some will say that the comments of a few anti-Semites don't matter - but they do! If you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes part of the social scenery, a background presumption that people believe in spite of rational thoughts to the contrary. And this meme is being repeated over and over, just about everywhere. It's poison, and it's spreading. Israel is still "that shitty little country" and Jews are still prominent in the very institutions that people are coming to loathe as being greedy, corrupt, and exploitative - and responsible for their own suffering.

No amount of protesting our innocence is going to stop this meme from growing. The more we protest, the more biased we will seem, and the more guilty we will be portrayed. There's no way to win, I'm afraid. And you should be scared, too.

1 comment:

SJ said...

The Talmud does talk alot of crap (I've been to yeshiva before), but it was written during a time when jews and gentiles weren't getting along, so no big deal if you ask me.

Granted there's alot of exaggeration from antisemites, but to pretend as apologists do that the Talmud don't talk aaany crap is simply untrue.

As for the economic crisis, it was caused by society itself because people forgot to live within their means. Everyone in debt has noone but theirselves to blame, not the jews, not republicans, not "deregulation," not Bush.